Comments on: *Curse* *stomp* *fume* http://chicanery.fibergeek.com/2007/08/30/curse-stomp-fume/ Impish by nature. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:32:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: gt http://chicanery.fibergeek.com/2007/08/30/curse-stomp-fume/#comment-319 gt Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:51:27 +0000 http://chicanery.fibergeek.com/?p=296#comment-319 Unrelated to the uncrushable thing... a personal comment tracker would be SO nice. Lemme know if you ever find one! p.s. I am geeking out right now because the anti-spam word is naaru. I take it you don't use randoms? And many thanks for the link! Unrelated to the uncrushable thing… a personal comment tracker would be SO nice. Lemme know if you ever find one!

p.s. I am geeking out right now because the anti-spam word is naaru. I take it you don’t use randoms? And many thanks for the link!

]]> By: Nibuca http://chicanery.fibergeek.com/2007/08/30/curse-stomp-fume/#comment-318 Nibuca Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:08:56 +0000 http://chicanery.fibergeek.com/?p=296#comment-318 All comments good. Even long ones :) Thanks! All comments good. Even long ones :)
Thanks!

]]> By: Algorython http://chicanery.fibergeek.com/2007/08/30/curse-stomp-fume/#comment-317 Algorython Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:41:39 +0000 http://chicanery.fibergeek.com/?p=296#comment-317 Yikes! I apologize for posting a comment longer than your article. Yikes! I apologize for posting a comment longer than your article.

]]> By: Algorython http://chicanery.fibergeek.com/2007/08/30/curse-stomp-fume/#comment-316 Algorython Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:40:42 +0000 http://chicanery.fibergeek.com/?p=296#comment-316 You don't really have to be uncrushable to be a viable tank, even in Kara. I've tanked in pretty much all of the Outlands 5 mans and Kara with my holy/prot pally. I have enough prot spec for max devotion, max toughness, and max redoubt. In tank gear, I run about 16K armor, maybe 11K health, ~450 defense, ~100 resilience. I always act as the sacrificial pally for clearing the crowds of non-elites -- Righteous Fury, Holy Wrath, Consecration, and I'm usually okay even if we happen to grab an elite or two (other than valets, of course). I go mainly as healbot, but I always bring the tank gear as well because sometimes we have enough healers and not enough tanks. The 3/3 Blessed Life, in addition to the Prot talents, plus my ability to help with my own healing (and generating aggro for doing it) makes it more viable than you'd expect. Before anyone starts flaming, I'm not saying I'm ideal for MT in Kara, but I'm an adequate substitute for a real tank. The biggest problem with my tanking is that it takes away a good part of the group's healing. Depending on the situation, I heal with RF on to try to make sure I'm ahead of the squishies on the aggro lists, because even in healing gear, I can survive more hits than the squishies. Some tanking I've done: SH: MT grabs the big gladiator while I hold all of the others in the pull (while healing myself frantically). We had no CC for the run, so we gave it a shot, and it worked great. Moroes: grabbing and off-tanking broken shackles or traps while healing myself and the real tanks for the fight. Sometimes we lose a shackler or a trapper, and I have to offtank a little between Turn Undead cooldowns. Curator approach: tanking one of the arcane watchmen while MT tanks the other one You don’t really have to be uncrushable to be a viable tank, even in Kara. I’ve tanked in pretty much all of the Outlands 5 mans and Kara with my holy/prot pally. I have enough prot spec for max devotion, max toughness, and max redoubt. In tank gear, I run about 16K armor, maybe 11K health, ~450 defense, ~100 resilience. I always act as the sacrificial pally for clearing the crowds of non-elites — Righteous Fury, Holy Wrath, Consecration, and I’m usually okay even if we happen to grab an elite or two (other than valets, of course). I go mainly as healbot, but I always bring the tank gear as well because sometimes we have enough healers and not enough tanks.

The 3/3 Blessed Life, in addition to the Prot talents, plus my ability to help with my own healing (and generating aggro for doing it) makes it more viable than you’d expect. Before anyone starts flaming, I’m not saying I’m ideal for MT in Kara, but I’m an adequate substitute for a real tank. The biggest problem with my tanking is that it takes away a good part of the group’s healing.

Depending on the situation, I heal with RF on to try to make sure I’m ahead of the squishies on the aggro lists, because even in healing gear, I can survive more hits than the squishies.

Some tanking I’ve done:

SH: MT grabs the big gladiator while I hold all of the others in the pull (while healing myself frantically). We had no CC for the run, so we gave it a shot, and it worked great.

Moroes: grabbing and off-tanking broken shackles or traps while healing myself and the real tanks for the fight. Sometimes we lose a shackler or a trapper, and I have to offtank a little between Turn Undead cooldowns.

Curator approach: tanking one of the arcane watchmen while MT tanks the other one

]]> By: Justin http://chicanery.fibergeek.com/2007/08/30/curse-stomp-fume/#comment-315 Justin Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:27:45 +0000 http://chicanery.fibergeek.com/?p=296#comment-315 Step 1. Take a breath. Step 2. Take a sip of your Latte. Step 3. Relax because in 5 mans you don't have to be UnCRUSHable. You see to be hit by a crushing blow (x1.5 damage) the thing attacking you has to be 3 levels higher than you. When you are level 70 the only thing that is that high is a RAID boss. Even the level 70 5-man instance bosses are only level 72. HOWEVER... if you want to tank a 5-man boss well you should get 485 defense so that you are unCRITTable (x2 damage). It is 485 because you need 490 def to be uncrittable to a level 73 (raid boss), 485 for 72 (5-man boss), 480 for 71 and only 475 for level 70 enemies. Holy ends up being pretty darn good at tanking 5-mans if you can meet that requirement. Love my super flexible Paladin Step 1. Take a breath.

Step 2. Take a sip of your Latte.

Step 3. Relax because in 5 mans you don’t have to be UnCRUSHable.

You see to be hit by a crushing blow (x1.5 damage) the thing attacking you has to be 3 levels higher than you. When you are level 70 the only thing that is that high is a RAID boss. Even the level 70 5-man instance bosses are only level 72.

HOWEVER… if you want to tank a 5-man boss well you should get 485 defense so that you are unCRITTable (x2 damage). It is 485 because you need 490 def to be uncrittable to a level 73 (raid boss), 485 for 72 (5-man boss), 480 for 71 and only 475 for level 70 enemies.

Holy ends up being pretty darn good at tanking 5-mans if you can meet that requirement. Love my super flexible Paladin

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