Wednesday night West Kingdom experienced loot drama. It wasn’t even about loot per se.. it was about shards .. and the lack of loot. We went to Kara. We were: Gongniu (Warrior Tank), Pheefee (Warrior off-tank), Validor (Holy Pally), Weaver (Holy Priest), Tatia (Holy Pally)(for everything except Opera), Shoktul (Boomkin), Krullwyn (BM Hunter), Stilletta (Rogue), Sibiy (BM Hunter), and Fynriss (BM Hunter) (for Attuman and Opera), and Amellea (for everything except Attuman). The kills went very smoothly and I don’t think we had any wipes. There was a little bit of confusion with people rotating in and out of the raid for different bosses but I think it worked out in the end (Fynriss got the gun from BBW that he’d been wanting).
WK loot rules:
– if a BOP drop is an upgrade for you in your current raid role, you need to roll against anyone for whom is it also and in-role upgrade and the winner gets to pick it up for free.
– if a BOP drop is an upgrade for you outside your current raid role, you need to roll against anyone else for whom it is also and out-of-role upgrade and the winner gets to pick it up and owes the raid shardprice for the item (ie, 1 void crystal for Kara purples).
– At the end of the raid shards will be distributed to those unluckies who haven’t gotten any loot.
The loot drama occurred as we starting to distribute Void crystals. We had a difference of understanding of “haven’t gotten any loot”.
Interpretation 1: If I picked up something for my off-set.. and I had to pay a shard for it.. then shouldn’t I be eligible for a shard at the end of the run? I -paid- for my item. It’s not loot.. it’s something I bought. Therefore I should be allowed to roll on the shards at the end of the run.
Interpretation 2: If I pick up something for my off-set.. I should have to pay a shard for it. I have received loot. At the end of the run, anyone else without loot should be allowed to roll on shard. That way everyone comes away with something.
I can see both sides.. and the guild has decided to go with interpretation 2.. but I think this is unfairly penalizing those who collect loot for off-sets.
If 4 pieces of loot drop and no one wants them this yields 4 shards. If no other loot dropped then at the end of the run we’d distribute 4 shards to 10 people.
If 4 pieces of loot dropped.. and I picked one piece up for my offset and I paid a shard for it.. then at the end of the run there’s 4 shards to distribute (3 “real” shards and 1 owed shard).
– If I’m not allowed to roll on the shards at the end of the run then we’d now have 4 shards to distribute to 9 people. Meaning those people who do-not collect an off-set would have a greater chance to get shards. AND those who -do- collect an off-set will end up paying more shards to the rest of the raid.
– If I am allowed to roll on shards at the end of the run.. then we’d have 4 shards to distribute to 10 people. If I win a shard then my shard is in the form of loot.
If I’m forced to pay a shard for an item.. then I should be allowed to roll on the shards at the end.